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Problem #530: Let $\ell(N)$ be maximal such that in any finite set...

Let $\ell(N)$ be maximal such that in any finite set $A\subset \mathbb{R}$ of size $N$ there exists a Sidon subset $S$ of size $\ell(N)$ (i.e. the...

Problem Statement

Let $\ell(N)$ be maximal such that in any finite set $A\subset \mathbb{R}$ of size $N$ there exists a Sidon subset $S$ of size $\ell(N)$ (i.e. the only solutions to $a+b=c+d$ in $S$ are the trivial ones). Determine the order of $\ell(N)$.


In particular, is it true that $\ell(N)\sim N^{1/2}$?
Categories: Number Theory Sidon Sets

Progress

Originally asked by Riddell [Ri69]. Erdős noted the bounds\[N^{1/3} \ll \ell(N) \leq (1+o(1))N^{1/2}\](the upper bound following from the case $A=\{1,\ldots,N\}$). The lower bound was improved to $N^{1/2}\ll \ell(N)$ by Komlós, Sulyok, and Szemerédi [KSS75]. The correct constant is unknown, but it is likely that the upper bound is true, so that $\ell(N)\sim N^{1/2}$.

In [AlEr85] Alon and Erdős make the stronger conjecture that perhaps $A$ can always be written as the union of at most $(1+o(1))N^{1/2}$ many Sidon sets. (This is easily verified for $A=\{1,\ldots,N\}$ using standard constructions of Sidon sets.)

This is discussed in problem C9 of Guy's collection [Gu04].

See also [1088] for a higher-dimensional generalisation.

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