Problem Statement
How many iterations of $n\mapsto \phi(n)+1$ are needed before a prime is reached? Can infinitely many $n$ reach the same prime? What is the density of $n$ which reach any fixed prime?
Categories:
Number Theory Iterated Functions
Progress
A problem of Finucane. One can also ask similar questions about $n\mapsto \sigma(n)-1$: do iterates of this always reach a prime? If so, how soon? (It is easily seen that iterates of this cannot reach the same prime infinitely often, since they are non-decreasing.)This problem is somewhat ambiguously phrased. Let $F(n)$ count the number of iterations of $n\mapsto \phi(n)+1$ before reaching a prime. The number of iterations required is A039651 in the OEIS.
Cambie notes in the comments that $F(n)=o(n)$ is trivial, and $F(n)=1$ infinitely often. Presumably the intended question is to find 'good' upper bounds for $F(n)$.
This is discussed in problem B41 of Guy's collection [Gu04].
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